4 PARA or RMR

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I’m living about an equal distance between both the RMR and 4 PARA. I’ve definitely decided that I want to push myself to pass an arduous course but am struggling to decide between the two. I’m trying to come up with some pros and cons. I appreciate this is a Para site but any guidance or in put will help
 

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Maybe speak to or check out posts by @4 PARA HQ
For me 4 PARA seems to have much better opportunities to serve alongside the regulars and has a really good track record of deploying on big exercises and deployments
 

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There are issues with what RMR actually do once passed out whereas 4 PARA have a clear annual diary with lots of coy and Bn level ex’s. @4 PARA HQ is your best point of contact
 

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Royal Marines are undergoing a lot of change at the moment and RMR can’t specialise. 4 PARA lads can get on regular cadres and they also have GPMG SF Pl and Mortar pl’s. If you want to be a soldier then join Army would be my take.
 

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Haven’t directly worked alongside RMR but served with 4 PARA. Happy to try and answer any questions with the caveat I hung my boots up in 2017.
 

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I’m living about an equal distance between both the RMR and 4 PARA. I’ve definitely decided that I want to push myself to pass an arduous course but am struggling to decide between the two. I’m trying to come up with some pros and cons. I appreciate this is a Para site but any guidance or in put will help
Attend an insight/open night for both, ask questions of the staff in attendance and form judgement. Happy to answer any questions directly on here.
 

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Attend an insight/open night for both, ask questions of the staff in attendance and form judgement. Happy to answer any questions directly on here.
This is the mature and sensible approach.

Don’t get sucked into unhelpful chest thumping arguments. Both demand high levels of commitment and effort. Continue to ask questions
 

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Thanks guys. Really appreciate this and I’m just trying to gather as much information as possible.

Can you tell me if it’s possible to specialise at all in 4 PARA. It’s quite conflicting about RMR as their website states
  • You’ll start as a General Duties Rifleman within your RMR Unit. After a few years in that role, you will have the opportunity to choose a specialisation. The main specialisations are Landing Craft Coxswain, Assault Engineer, Heavy Weapons (Mortars) and Swimmer Canoeist.

But from reading the RM forum this isn’t the case moving forward and it’s only a GD rifleman role. Does 4 PARA differ?

Also how often will you have the opportunity to go on exercises in 4 PARA?
 

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My understanding, but I will confirm this, is that RMR detachments are predominently GD, but it may be possible to attend certain courses such as Skill at Arms, PTI and various range qualifications if required by the unit. Those RMR ranks with other specialist qualifications (SQ) are often ex regulars.


@4 PARA HQ is best placed to explain how this translates within 4 PARA.
 

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Do we know if any 4 PARA online open nights are due?
 

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Can you tell me if it’s possible to specialise at all in 4 PARA. It’s quite conflicting about RMR as their website states
Bear in mind that the RM forum contains content dating back to 2007. An excellent resource but nothing remains static so always check the date of a post.

About ten years ago RMR units were assigned a specialisation. From memory, RMR London might have been Landing Craft while RMR Bristol might have been Heavy Weapons. The policy of units specialising has now changed so that is something which should be clarified with the RMR detachment you are specifically interested in.
 

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Bear in mind that the RM forum contains content dating back to 2007. An excellent resource but nothing remains static so always check the date of a post.

About ten years ago RMR units were assigned a specialisation. From memory, RMR London might have been Landing Craft while RMR Bristol might have been Heavy Weapons. The policy of units specialising has now changed so that is something which should be clarified with the RMR detachment you are specifically interested in.
I meant their actual site- https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/our-organisation/maritime-reserves/royal-marines-reserve

But I’ve found their forum too.
 

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I meant their actual site
Understood. Best to not assume that MOD official sites are always current. There are some real howlers out there. For example, email contact addresses which are dormant and not updated.

The RM forum is 'officially unofficial' which makes it nimble and unconstrained by the dead hand of bureaucracy.
 

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For me it’s the opportunity to get out and get stuck in. 4 PARA are very open that their troops regularly deploy alongside the regulars and that’s a big draw for me. RMR on the other hand don’t seem to have as prominent role in Royal Marine deployments from what I can see.
 

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There will be a D Coy (Midlands/Wales) one due in next few weeks - please keep an eye on the FB page.
4 PARA is definitely the unit I’m leaning towards. I noticed on FB they said £300 joining bonus and a £2000 training completion bonus is available. Is this still a thing?
 
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